your intro was about mario monti which is all true. silvio berlusconi, the former prime minister of italy -- >> my favorite. >> thank goodness for silvio berlusconi. >> look at his hair. what is he, 76? >> 76. he just sat down with cnbc italy over the weekend. silvio berlusconi says he does not want to run for prime minister, but, he is obligated to, because the country needs him so desperately. he is the only one that can bring together 40% of the people who vote for him, so that way the left does not control italy. >> he could not get 40%, could he? or could he? >> i don't know if he could get 40%. he thinks he can get more than anybody else. >> really? >> yes. >> now the question is, 40% isn't enough once you're in a parliament, right, because of a parliamentary system and two other parties that used to support him no longer do. it's not clear what they would ultimately do, would they really link to the left? it's hard to say. more than italy, remember, they would never agree with this, but they're far more dramatic than southern it